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TimBear
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Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:29 pm Posts: 58 Location: Dover
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_________________ I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart.
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| Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:16 pm |
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Fred
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Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:29 am Posts: 253 Location: Fort Smith
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I have the 4200 40c thunder power...I really like it in the losi buggy...plenty of room in the losi tray...I had the smc 5200 40c...but it puffed...Mick sent them in and smc replaced them with 50c batteries...hope they are better than the other ones...will not buy any more smc...I think they are junk...I'm have ran the orion batteries...Never had a problem with them...been running one of them for 4 years...if they built them all like that it would be nice...
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revo basher
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Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:21 pm Posts: 261 Location: Russellville
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Thanks Tim.... I feel better bout it now... I hope santa will be nice to me this year And I get the rest of my stuff I need
_________________ Mike One Stop R/C Lakeside R/C Revo Basher.com I Love the Smell of Nitro in the Morning
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| Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:07 pm |
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Rootar
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Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 pm Posts: 708
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the 25c Hyperion will fit and is all the lipo youll ever need. but if you wanna pay the extra for the TP thats fine, they are great batteries and are very well built, they are actually the only other pack i would buy other than the c-techs and hyperions these days, but the new hyperion packs are pretty amazing and they easily keep up and with the TP 40c and actaully exceed their performance at the end of the run. (from my personal testing with the ETree). the 25c hyperion packs held their voltage incredibly well and are very underrated. you also need to compare the weights of the packs, the hyperion packs are pretty light in comparison to the others.
OR if you could wait just a couple more weeks you could get the new castle 1800kv buggy combo, and run a 5s 3300vx or 5s 4200vx like ALOT of us are doing and youll be set. this would be a MUCH better setup for your buggy than the huge 2200 castle motor. the lower kv buggy size motors are a perfect match for these cars. (trust me ive ran just about every setup you can think of)
besides you can buy a castle controller (Mamba Monster) and buy any tekin motor of choice for the same price or LESS than the castle combo, then youll have a much better selection for batteries that will not work as hard and last longer due to the decrease in amp draw.
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JDCrow
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:16 pm Posts: 235
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Dont be too surprised to start seeing the Industry move to 2S and 3S for 1:8 Scale.
More and More RC Manufacturers are moving to lower voltage due to increasing safety concerns related to the speed and danger these large vehicles are imposing on turnmarshals.
Plus LiFe in 2S and 3S is beginning to gain momentum. Already the staple in Asia/Northern Europe. These packs are the same size as current 2S LiPo Hardcase packs. Many new chemistry changes are gaining performance benefit for RC Applications. Not the old A123 Battery anymore, and not the Tool Application battery either.
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Rootar
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Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 pm Posts: 708
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that wouldnt surprise me JD, A 2s and 3s system will work just fine in an 8th scale, but youll need some HIGH capacity high quality lipos, and they are gonna get worked very hard (decreasing their life span this includes the life cells) and no matter what voltage your using you are gonna need atleast 400g of lipo or 600g of life packs onboard to power the car (Dont let sizes fool ya, some packs are heavier than others of the same size and the Life pack have always been heavy for their size) , that weight of battery can be a little 5s 3300 that never breaks a sweat such as in my car or it can be a 2s 8000 pack that gets WORKED hard. The 5s setup will pull less than half the amps and have signifcantly longer runtimes for the same amount of weight in battery on board. It will be easy on the esc and the lipo, another thing to consider is the amps youll be bursting at on the lower voltages, these spikes will be high and hard on your esc. lord knows enough of these fail as it is from people pulling them to hard on high voltages and with the lower voltages there will be a much finer line on gearing and such to keep temperatures in check. I have ran a 5000kv Neu 1512 on 2s 3s and 4s just for the heck of it and i wont lie the motor ran fine on 2s and 3s in the buggy but the batteries i was testing and esc definetly didnt like the setup as they were generally to hot to handle after 3-5 mins (thermaled the MMM on 2s) but the motor was never over 130. So it is doable but i hope they dont go this way. Keep in mind im a basing this all on use of your buggy on a medium to larger outdoor track that you can actaully run a 1/8th scale on, but on say a super tiny indoor track you can get away with alot of crap that you cant anywhere else. But who builds these cars to ONLY run on little indoor tracks? as for the safety of the marshalls thats people who are new to these e8s setting them up with no experience and having a new found lead finger (its fun), itll easily get you into trouble, I used to be the same way so i know, i try to get people to gear conservitave and make use of the ESC punch control as much as possible but hey you can only lead a horse to water, you cant make them drink...... I see tons of guys to drive thier nitro 1/8ths way out of control they are not slouches by any means either, the electric 1/8ths are just percieved as faster and more dangerous because the "lazy marshal" doesnt here it coming like a screaming nitro when he is day dreaming about something over there. No lie these things will sneak up on ya. The only thing we can do for this is better design the tracks to keep turn marshals out of harms way, only have Adults marshaling and make sure the Adults are paying attention.
_________________ Ross Pilgreen In too deep!
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TimBear
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Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:29 pm Posts: 58 Location: Dover
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Wow, you win JD. He typed twice as much after you chimed in  .....Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year!
_________________ I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart.
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| Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:40 am |
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revo basher
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Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:21 pm Posts: 261 Location: Russellville
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Well that is alot to think about. Merry christmas to you all and hope santa brings you all you R/C Dreams to life
_________________ Mike One Stop R/C Lakeside R/C Revo Basher.com I Love the Smell of Nitro in the Morning
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| Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:57 am |
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Rootar
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Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 pm Posts: 708
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whatever tim  ............  i'm sorry i type so such 
_________________ Ross Pilgreen In too deep!
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Shane McCall
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Joined: Wed May 17, 2006 2:17 pm Posts: 190
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My question would be, what are the industry pros using? They aren't going to use something that doesn't work or fails, they can't afford too. Think about it, who's going to buy stuff that blows up and isn't reliable? Not me. So there's the question, what are Drake, Truhe, Cavaleri, Tebo and James running? That's what I would use.... if I were running.
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| Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:37 am |
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TimBear
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Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:29 pm Posts: 58 Location: Dover
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Ross, I was just yanking your chain a little  . Anyway you have really good punctuation and make really good points  ..so type on brother  I really appreciate all the help you give the new 1/8 electric guys like myself. The only reason I'm giving the 2650 with 3s a try is I managed to get the combo for $197 NIB shipping included. I figure I have about $50 in the motor. I guess I'm coping Tim Bump of Nitrohouse and his Hyper 9E setup and see if I like it or not. I'm sure I will be trying a bunch of other setups as well....Ok now I'm typing too much MERRY CHRISTMAS
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| Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:08 am |
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Rootar
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Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 pm Posts: 708
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You'll love the 2650 on 3s tim. I've ran that same setup for 3 years now in 5 different cars (slash, crt.5, Ls10, crt.5, and buggy) and its always great. But the heavier the car the better the lipo you have to run. With all of those i ran a 3s 5000 pack, but the buggy was too much for it and killed the pack. So you will need a 35-40c quailty 3s lipo to run the comob in a 1/8th buggy but im betting you bought the TP 40c packs so your set Shane you ought to know those pros run w/e they are given by their sponsers..... but most of the tekin drivers either run the 1900s on 4s or the lower kvs on 5s and 6s. Randy said they dont sell many motors over 1900kv. The 1900 and lower kv combos out sell the 2050 and higher kv combos 2:1 all day long. Lrp went with the higher kv motors because they need the RPMs because their rotors arent as big as the tekins and castle motors. Anyone notice novak has all thier HVmaxx stuff for dirt cheap now? They are coming out with a better system with motors of lower kv and larger rotors. Every one have a Merry Christmas i headed out!
_________________ Ross Pilgreen In too deep!
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JDCrow
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:16 pm Posts: 235
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Shane McCall wrote: My question would be, what are the industry pros using? They aren't going to use something that doesn't work or fails, they can't afford too. Think about it, who's going to buy stuff that blows up and isn't reliable? Not me. So there's the question, what are Drake, Truhe, Cavaleri, Tebo and James running? That's what I would use.... if I were running. They ran 4s Hardcase LiPo. And soon will be working out LiFe. Tim - Its not how much you type...Its who you know and what they are up to that counts. And since there have already been incidents causing concussions and being knocked unconscious by overpowered 1:8 scales.....lots of people are rethinking several aspects of this class. Manufacturers included.. Just saying... Merry Christmas..Im here all week..and dont forget to tip your waitress.
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| Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:24 pm |
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Rootar
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Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 pm Posts: 708
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JDCrow wrote: Tim - Its not how much you type...Its who you know and what they are up to that counts.
excuse me for explaining my responses some times you gotta type it out.... AND its news to me that "word of mouth" is far better then 1,000s of hours of personal experience with 100s of setups involving every brand and style of esc, motor, and lipo you can think of using ET data loggers and other equipment. Yea i dont know a d@mn thing about this electric crap.
_________________ Ross Pilgreen In too deep!
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Fred
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Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:29 am Posts: 253 Location: Fort Smith
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I'm missing somthing on this thread...Don't understand why it would hurt worse to get hit by a electric buggy than it would by a gas buggy..
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